KitKatie329 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Somehow I've managed to go from, "Hmmm, cockroaches..." to 3 tanks in 4 months. I was wondering though, is it possible to house only males in the same enclosure? Will they kill each other? Can I keep them in the same density, so to speak, as a mixed gender tank if it is possible? Thanks for any information on this, here's some pictures! Tank 1 (29 gallon): Tank 2 (10 gallon): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 First off, Welcome to the forum. Only males together? Interesting idea (but WHY?) I either feed off or give away my extra males, so there won't be too many. But, yeah, you could do it. It would also look good. BTW, your tank looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKatie329 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Thanks! Well I am still living with my Dad so I want to do it mainly for population control, my room is very small, but also because I would like to selectively breed my most awesome ones, and I don't know anyone to easily pawn off my extra roaches to for food. The closest person I know with reptiles is 3 HOURS away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Thanks! Well I am still living with my Dad so I want to do it mainly for population control, my room is very small, but also because I would like to selectively breed my most awesome ones, and I don't know anyone to easily pawn off my extra roaches to for food. The closest person I know with reptiles is 3 HOURS away! Wow! 3 hours!!! You're gonna end up with some AWESOME roaches..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKatie329 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 I'm sure I could always post the overflow on Craigslist or something, I live in a large city. I have another question, I have a 5ish (maybe a tad bigger) gallon Sterilite with 2 gravid females in there, would it be OK to stick a Zoo Med 5 gallon UTH on the bottom? I've never used one with a plastic bin before and the temp is hovering around 65 :/ And I can't tell if you're making fun of me or not, but I hope they are totally awesome, haha! Thanks for all the advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 They look very comfortable! As for males, I'm housing some together for a while (half experiment, half necessity) and I can tell you it's not preferable. They kinda go insane. Fighting surprisingly often, trying to mate with inanimate objects or each other... but they react normally around females when I mixed them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'm sure I could always post the overflow on Craigslist or something, I live in a large city. I have another question, I have a 5ish (maybe a tad bigger) gallon Sterilite with 2 gravid females in there, would it be OK to stick a Zoo Med 5 gallon UTH on the bottom? I've never used one with a plastic bin before and the temp is hovering around 65 :/ And I can't tell if you're making fun of me or not, but I hope they are totally awesome, haha! Thanks for all the advice! you should be fine with the UTH and the Sterilite i think the most those ZooMed UTH get is around 105 or so no where near over heating the tank. if you want to be really safe you change a thermostat for it or wire in a dimmer like so if it malfunctions it doesn't over heat. these are what i'm talking about http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/reptile-supplies/thermometers-thermostats-and-timers/-/zoo-med-rheostat-150-watts/ http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/reptile-supplies/thermometers-thermostats-and-timers/-/alife-1000-watt-electronic-thermostat-with-probe/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKatie329 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Ooh, thanks, I'll keep that in mind! I decided to just not use the heater because they've been doing fine without it in my other tank and I'm in no rush for tons of babies. I've also decided to go substrateless in my "breeding" tank for the first time, I'm sure I'll like it a lot more with the nymphs involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfox Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Ooh, thanks, I'll keep that in mind! I decided to just not use the heater because they've been doing fine without it in my other tank and I'm in no rush for tons of babies. I've also decided to go substrateless in my "breeding" tank for the first time, I'm sure I'll like it a lot more with the nymphs involved. I started with 6 Hissers like 2-3 months ago maybe and I now have over 90. They are kept at room temp which is cold 62 F with one headlamp on 5 bins on that one level of my shelf. They get up to about 70 at the warmest over winter and all of my species are doing very very well and breeding like mad. My lats and lobsters are breeding faster than I'd ever need to I've been giving quite a few away. Good luck with yours, they look mighty comfy and will likely have a population explosion every few months. In other words, using mine as an example, 90 nymphs mean 90 adults, assuming half are female and live to adulthood thats the potential for like 900-1400 baby Hissers by next year. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I started with 6 Hissers like 2-3 months ago maybe and I now have over 90. They are kept at room temp which is cold 62 F with one headlamp on 5 bins on that one level of my shelf. They get up to about 70 at the warmest over winter and all of my species are doing very very well and breeding like mad. My lats and lobsters are breeding faster than I'd ever need to I've been giving quite a few away. Good luck with yours, they look mighty comfy and will likely have a population explosion every few months. In other words, using mine as an example, 90 nymphs mean 90 adults, assuming half are female and live to adulthood thats the potential for like 900-1400 baby Hissers by next year. Lol. One thing you need to learn about Vfox, he has some naughty roaches How are your lobsters doing, Vfox How are you lats doing, Vfox? How are your hissers doing, Vfox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfox Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 One thing you need to learn about Vfox, he has some naughty roaches How are your lobsters doing, Vfox How are you lats doing, Vfox? How are your hissers doing, Vfox? I'll let you know once I wade through the roach tidal wave lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKatie329 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Haha oh dear, those are naughty roaches! That's why after this explosion (which I wanted for SCIENCE! lol) I'm going to keep the males and females separate unless I want the naughtiness. I know this is counter productive to most enthusiasts, but someone should invent like a hormonal roach spray contraceptive or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'll let you know once I wade through the roach tidal wave lol. Didn't that already happen lol? Haha oh dear, those are naughty roaches! That's why after this explosion (which I wanted for SCIENCE! lol) I'm going to keep the males and females separate unless I want the naughtiness. I know this is counter productive to most enthusiasts, but someone should invent like a hormonal roach spray contraceptive or something. Yeah right "for science" That's a good idea.... a very good way to keep them off Santa's naughty list! A hormonal spray.... hmmmm..... would it be something that you "soak" the roaches you don't want to breed in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likebugs Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I like the idea of roach contraceptive. I would try keeping more species if there was a way to prevent overpopulation. I am starting small with my discoids, 1 pair of adults and 1 pair of large nymphs. I am afraid of escapes if I have too many. Now, if I can only stay away from the store that I bought them from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfox Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I like the idea of roach contraceptive. I would try keeping more species if there was a way to prevent overpopulation. I am starting small with my discoids, 1 pair of adults and 1 pair of large nymphs. I am afraid of escapes if I have too many. Now, if I can only stay away from the store that I bought them from. It's no use fighting it, once you get one more will follow. I started with Blaberus fusca hybrids and although I no longer have them, I now care for 14 different species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Do roaches self-regulate their populations at all (slow breeding if there's a high population)? A "contraceptive" would be kinda neat... Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKatie329 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 We have more babies! The first in the breeding tank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 We have more babies! The first in the breeding tank! Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 So... Cute! Good thing that tank's escape-proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKatie329 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Oooooh yeah, I have Vaseline on the top, the vent holes are covered from the inside with screen which is taped all around the edge, and before I pop the lid back on I place a piece of screen between the top and the lid. Sterilite bins are very convenient! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Orin mentioned that when he wants to downsize on his roach numbers he simply doesn't offer them food. Whether this stops them from breeding or they simply eat each other, I don't know. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Orin mentioned that when he wants to downsize on his roach numbers he simply doesn't offer them food. Whether this stops them from breeding or they simply eat each other, I don't know. lol Animal Cruelty~ species: Hissing cockroaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfox Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I thought animal cruelty laws didn't apply to invertebrates? Back when the movie Joe's Apartment came out PETA tried to get them for cruelty towards the roaches, especially the ones being mooshed. Something transpired yadda yadda and nothing came of it. The judge basically ruled that insects are not animals of the same class as those covered under those laws and not protected. Same thing happened in Men in Black when Will Smith steps on some cockroaches near a dumpster to anger the alien roach. Same result too, nothing changed and they can basically be smooched on camera without worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I thought animal cruelty laws didn't apply to invertebrates? Back when the movie Joe's Apartment came out PETA tried to get them for cruelty towards the roaches, especially the ones being mooshed. Something transpired yadda yadda and nothing came of it. The judge basically ruled that insects are not animals of the same class as those covered under those laws and not protected. Same thing happened in Men in Black when Will Smith steps on some cockroaches near a dumpster to anger the alien roach. Same result too, nothing changed and they can basically be smooched on camera without worry. Not ANIMALS? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfox Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Not ANIMALS? :blink: Not animals of the same type, as in non-cephalopod invertebrates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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