piscesilim Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Which one is valid name for horseshoe crab roach? Hemiblabera brunneri or Hemiblabera tenebricosa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebeard Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 In my advise.... Hemiblabera tenebricosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscesilim Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Are these 2 scientific name refer to 2 different species or same species? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebeard Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Are these 2 scientific name refer to 2 different species or same species? Look...: H.tenebricosa H.brunneri they are two distinct species... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscesilim Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 How to differentiate them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebeard Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Look at the adult forms... and should also look at the genitals...but for more detailed...I do not know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 There is a paper by Louis Roth showing the difference between those two and several other Hemiblabera sp. In Europe they are called "brunneri" but if you look at the paper H. brunneri has a shiny black pronotum with a line of white running the entire anterior margin. Even if the species currently in culture isn't H. tenebricosa (which, it definitely resembles the male in the paper that is thought to be tenebricosa, particularly the elytra) it certainly isn't brunneri. Here's the paper: http://psyche.entclub.org/pdf/77/77-308.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscesilim Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 That means H. brunneri and H. tenebricosa in the hobby are the same species. But they are not either H. brunneri nor H. tenebricosa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOO CENTRE Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I have H.brunneri and H.tenebricosa- I will send them for determination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 That means H. brunneri and H. tenebricosa in the hobby are the same species. But they are not either H. brunneri nor H. tenebricosa? They are most likely H. tenebricosa. I believe Orin from our forum did a dissection and determined the ID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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