entity Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 So is there a rule of thumb with roaches? They r all communal right? But if I have like a 5 gal tank how many say hissers can i keep together? I was wondering if there was a rule of thumb with what is over crowded. I want to set them up for display. Not with egg crates more of a natural look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 So is there a rule of thumb with roaches? They r all communal right? But if I have like a 5 gal tank how many say hissers can i keep together? I was wondering if there was a rule of thumb with what is over crowded. I want to set them up for display. Not with egg crates more of a natural look. From what I understand, hissers are hard to overcrowd, if you have plenty of surface area in the cage you should be able to contain quite a few hissers in it. Some species are more picky than others, and will cannibalize or die off if kept too crowded. For example, freshly molted Blaberus giganteus adults will die if bothered too much by nymphs, so you must give them plenty of space. Simandoa conserfarium will also nip each others antenna if kept too crowded. It all depends on the species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I am new to this as well but here is what I have discovered. Roaches take up very little space. Its just ridiculous. I have 108 eublaberus sp. pantanal in a 20 quart storage container with 3 inches of coco fiber. They only borrow in one half. I have 26 E. Javanica hissers in a 20 gallon high fish tank.....like an empty wasteland in there lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannaking22 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 You can start off likely with however many you want. Just keep an eye on them when things seem to be getting a little crowded and if you see signs of stress or antenna biting, you may want to thin the herd a bit. But with hissers it'll probably take a while to reach that point, especially if you give them plenty of things to crawl around on/hide under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entity Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Thanks guys! im trying to get something setup before i get anything. i was thinking like a large critter keeper. The ones im most interested in right now are regular hisser. halloween hissers and giant cave roaches. ...sorry i dont know the proper names for them yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Thanks guys! im trying to get something setup before i get anything. i was thinking like a large critter keeper. The ones im most interested in right now are regular hisser. halloween hissers and giant cave roaches. ...sorry i dont know the proper names for them yet. No problem! Those Giant cave roaches, Blaberus gigateus are going to need a big enclosure, keep that in mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannaking22 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Thanks guys! im trying to get something setup before i get anything. i was thinking like a large critter keeper. The ones im most interested in right now are regular hisser. halloween hissers and giant cave roaches. ...sorry i dont know the proper names for them yet. Good call trying to get things set up beforehand. Critter Keepers aren't the best if you want to really show off a species (in my opinion anyway) but they are very functional when it comes to hissers! You may want a tall rubbermaid bin or something if you want to try the giant cave roaches. Gromphadorhina portentosa - regular hissing cockroach Elliptorhina javanica - Halloween hisser Blaberus giganteus - giant cave roach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entity Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Sounds good! Is there anyone who sells roaches on here? or any other inverts for that matter? i noticed there is no "for sale" section on the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Lemur Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Sounds good! Is there anyone who sells roaches on here? or any other inverts for that matter? i noticed there is no "for sale" section on the forum. It's under "ad listings". There's lots of great sellers here on the forum. Roach crossing is great to do business with as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Sounds good! Is there anyone who sells roaches on here? or any other inverts for that matter? i noticed there is no "for sale" section on the forum. Yup, like Lemur said, ad listings. Lots of sellers here, and most of the prices here are cheaper then what you will find anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannaking22 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Most of what you'll see is roaches, but there are very few of us on here that only keep roaches. We usually have a mix of things and with spring coming up I'm sure people will be selling (like me! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entity Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 cool! ill check it out! thanks guys! much appeciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entity Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Good call trying to get things set up beforehand. Critter Keepers aren't the best if you want to really show off a species (in my opinion anyway) but they are very functional when it comes to hissers! You may want a tall rubbermaid bin or something if you want to try the giant cave roaches. Gromphadorhina portentosa - regular hissing cockroach Elliptorhina javanica - Halloween hisser Blaberus giganteus - giant cave roach how r the regular hissers and the halloween hissers not even in the same genus? u would think hissing cockroaches would all be in the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 They are in the same family, but different genera. It makes sense, considering that the genetalia are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Lemur Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 how r the regular hissers and the halloween hissers not even in the same genus? u would think hissing cockroaches would all be in the same? There's also aeluropoda insignis, the flat hisser. I believe there's several other "hisser" genus' as well. My blaberus craniifer even make a hissing sound. I believe it's just a defense mechanism, not a genus-defining feature of any kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entity Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 oh. cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 They are in the same family, but different genera. It makes sense, considering that the genetalia are different. Well, they're in the family Blaberidae, which makes up most of the giant tropical roaches in the hobby. I think that the lowest classification that defines hissers is the tribe Gromphadorhinini. Anything in the tribe Gromphadorhinini can be considered a hissing cockroach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Well, they're in the family Blaberidae, which makes up most of the giant tropical roaches in the hobby. I think that the lowest classification that defines hissers is the tribe Gromphadorhinini. Anything in the tribe Gromphadorhinini can be considered a hissing cockroach. Yes, that's what I meant, should have said tribe instead of family. Thanks for the correction Tenevanica! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Looking on the Cockroach species file online at other genera in the tribe Gromphadorhini, I would love to see Leozehntnera maxima in the hobby, they look cool! I would also like what the Ateloblatta look like. Another interesting thing is how different the wild caught G.portentosa look from the captive G.portentosa. Same with the P.grandidieri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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