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    Dubia roach blisters?

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    Dubia roach blisters?

    Chick starter has DL Methionine in it...a man made synthetic chemical meant to replicate naturally occurring "Methionine" which is one of the essential amino acid proteins necessary for most life here on earth. It has been patented by the University of Florida as a "green" pesticide targeting insects with an alkaline gut physiology including termites, mosquitos, caterpillar/larvae, and our beloved cockroach....among others. It has been sprayed on stored grain for years, hence the reason you will find it in everything from Guinea Pig food, to Tortoise food. Its primary addition is to poultry feed which makes meatier and faster growing birds. They created DL Methionine because the naturally occurring "Methionine" is known as a limiting amino acid protein, and our bodies don't create it...it must be introduced via diet. If you imagine a wooden bucket comprised of slats, Methionine is the shortest slat making up the bucket thereby "limiting" the amount of water it can hold. By increasing Methionine the bucket can hold more water...i.e..protein. Problems occur because by increasing Methionine, you also increase other amino acid proteins like Histidine...anyone care to guess what Histidine does ???.....It creates Histamine…..why do we have "anti-histamines" ??? Because too much Histamine creates a rash, blisters, itching, etc....even life threatening anaphylactic shock. Given my experience of breeding approximately 10,000 female Dubia, which were fed cat food pretty much for years. And then I purchased 25,000 female Dubia which were fed nothing but poultry feed their entire lives, I believe the blisters are a side effect of DL Methionine and the resulting increase of Histidine, and protein levels which is not helpful for adult Dubia. Now, I can not recall ever seeing this blistering or "white wing" disease, another defect I encountered in the 25K purchase but never before in my house stock. And I seen a lot of it in the 25K group.....primarily, if not entirely, in freshly molted females...and on wings of males. (can't be sure if they were freshly molted or not) The other really strange thing about the 25K group was at least 90% of all the adult females were small, barely larger than a quarter. They were all dead within 6 months, and issues continued with their offspring for another year. I've since read that one of the great things about these green pesticides is that they can stay in the colony for up to 3 generations...a little bit of pesticide goes a loooong way. I've linked to the patent application by the University of Florida, you have to dig around and read a lot of scientific jargon, but there is quite a bit of corroborative evidence/research which notes DL Methionine primarily effects 1st thru 3rd instars, causes slower growth and smaller adults, and interferes with the reproduction rates of breeding females. As an aside.....Methionine, Cysteine, Homocysteine, and Taurine are the 4 common sulfur containing amino acids. Methionine and cysteine may be considered to be the principal sulfur-containing amino acids with Methionine being the initiating amino acid in the synthesis of virtually all eukaryotic proteins. Does everyone know what Sulphur is/does.....its the oldest pesticide known to man. When you feed poultry feed containing DL Methionine you are feeding your roaches a triple whammy....first a patented pesticide, second increasing levels of histamine, and third you are adding Sulphur to their diet....another known pesticide. There is a better way..... https://patents.google.com/patent/US7181884
  3. whowadat

    Room temp roaches.

    Yes we do….nymphs up to fresh adults....can I link to my website ? (not sure if its against the rules)
  4. whowadat

    Amateur Pure Hobby Hisser "Key"

    I wouldn't argue your point, however my experience has been 180 degrees opposite. We vended 28 shows last year and seen a lot of folks selling Hissers.....they were always much more expensive than what we were selling them for....10 for 15.00 dollars. I had one guy tell me how mine were hybrids and his were pure stock based upon the size of his compared to mine. I let it pass.... however what he failed to note is that he wasn't selling any of his Hissers at his price point and that's why his were larger, they were older. It wasn't the first time I heard another vendor claim his were the real deal hence the higher price. I've seen something similar with Death Heads.... one guy in Nashville was claiming his was the larger Riverside morph and hence their 10.00 a piece price tag. When I asked them where he got them from...he couldn't tell me. Folks who know their stock....know exactly where they got them from in my experience.....most are rather anal about it.
  5. whowadat

    Amateur Pure Hobby Hisser "Key"

    I have bred literally thousands of Madagascar Hissing Cockroaches for the last 8 years. I purchased close to 5K from a guy in Ohio....the concept of purity or hybridized never entered our negotiation as I didn't care. They have never been added to, I have sold thousands in this time and continue to sell them at shows and our website as "hybrids" because I have no idea if they were pure or not. Given where I got them, and the 3" plus size they achieve as they age, and what I believe to be a very consistent color and pattern, I don't think they are hybrids...but again I don't know. I have seen a very dark morph, almost black, but I believe that dark color is either related to diet, or just a variation of the norm. The overwhelming majority of our customers, either are unaware that these might by hybrids, or couldn't care less......the idea that the vast majority of Mad Hissers that are out there come from just a small group of Hissers that were hybridized, hence all their off spring are hybrids. Or that people are out there right now trying to hybridize for reasons I can't comprehend, makes me think that the only people who care about purity are those trying to charge more for bugs that are becoming more and more common and cheaper. jmho
  6. Hello, we've been breeding Hissers for about 7-8 years now. We vend at reptile shows and have a lot of kids, and adults, wanting to hear the Hissers hiss....I grab a male by the legs and give them a light shake. They try to pull away and pretty much in the process start hissing up a storm....if they are cold they don't tend to hiss much. I'm talking about the roaches not the kids..... 🙂 Mike
  7. whowadat

    Room temp roaches.

    Orangeheads…..I have huge colonies that have never had supplemental heat. They actually generate their own heat.....
  8. I would like to add something....I recommend not using poultry crumbles/pellets in your dry roach chow. One ingredient found in most if not all poultry feed products, even those labeled "organic" is Methionine. Methionine is an amino acid protein found in many natural food products, much needed in humans and I assume most mammals, birds, and who knows what else. For poultry producers wishing to breed faster growing birds, they discovered that Methionine was a "limiting" amino acid protein....the weakest link in the chain if you will. They needed to raise this limiting factor and over the last several decades a synthetic form of Methionine was developed. This synthetic form was known as DL-Methionine. They discovered another wonderful attribute of DL-Methionine, that being it was an effective insecticide for pest insects with an alkaline gut physiology....pests like mosquitoes and termites....and yes, many cockroaches...if not all...have this alkaline gut physiology. I have purchased bags of both poultry feed and wild game bird feed at reputable feed stores where the ingredient list clearly notes DL-Methionine, while others...even some claiming to be organic....clearly had Methionine in their nutrient lists. (nothing wrong with that given Methionine's "natural" origins - DL Methionine is the synthetic version) Those with just the word Methionine in their nutrient list, not DL-Methionine - also had the term "Methionine Supplement" in their ingredient list. I was confused...what the heck is a Methionine supplement ? It would appear that the Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO) set the standard of identity for DL-Methionine (a known insecticide) as containing a minimum of 99% racemic 2-amino-4-methylthiobutryric acid. (AAFCO 2001) I have no idea what that means....BUT....The AAFCO model regulation states that "the term Methionine Supplement may be used in the ingredient list on a feed tag to indicate the addition of DL-Methionine." Imagine, you are trying to grow roaches or poultry using organic means, and a product which claims to be organic, and even claims their product is "insecticide free", has the term Methionine Supplement in its ingredient list...a term not commonly associated with an insecticide like its cousin DL-Methionine. I can provide links and pictures of ingredient tags on several different products if necessary. I encourage any interested parties do their own research on Methionine and DL Methionine. Read about the effect the insecticide has on mosquito larvae, affect on early instars and lack of effect on older bugs. Read about "Juvenile Hormone Inhibitors" (JHIs) and the need for more "natural" insecticides all over the world. If you are struggling to find out reasons for mysterious deaths of newborn nymphs, smaller than normal female breeders, early deaths of breeders, or any other issues without easily understood red flags that need to be addressed....look at the ingredient lists of the products you are using in your foods....even those labeled organic. You might be surprised to learn you are introducing an insecticide into your roach bins....I know I was. Mike
  9. Wild Game Bird Feed...."starter" version as there is "conditioner" and "flock" and I think one other type. First ingredient on starter is "plant protein products" while conditioner notes "grain by products".....starter notes 28% protein and I assume its soybean based because soybeans are one of the highest plant based proteins out there. (although soybean isn't mentioned) The conditioner notes a 16% protein level but again doesn't specify a single source of that protein. For example, chick feed "hen scratch" which is noted at around 8% protein has listed in its ingredients corn and sorghum, (milo) which is basically common bird feed. I use the WGBF starter in my dry chow, (with other stuff) used to feed Orangeheads and Hissers.....it gets devoured. For dubia I use the conditioner again with other stuff....both chows incorporate alfalfa too. (alfalfa is around 14% protein)
  10. I use Zip-Loc weathertite tubs for my thousands and thousands of Hissers....recently Sterilite came out with a similar product, not as well built but taller which I like. They have a blue dense foam seal around the underside of the lid edge which keep the little ones from sneaking out. I once made the mistake of keeping Hissers in a Exo Terra glass tank....it was an awesome display with natural features that grabbed a lot of attention at the reptile shows I vend at.....I quickly learned the babies could fit through the crack(s) between the glass doors....they are very slender and flat, quite difficult to pick up with your fingers unless you can flip them upside down. I use a plastic spoon to scoop them off linoleum floors. Oh yeah....(if you keep Hissers you are a full fledged "Roach Wrangler") I sing to them and try VERY hard not to jar the tubs I keep them in....the adults aren't that fast and easily tracked down, the babies are scatterbugs….my wife wasn't too pleased when one time at least 200-300 tiny ones escaped when I knocked over a temporary holding tub....I used her vacuum to catch 'em all....lesson learned.....just like the cowboys sing to their steer keeping the herd relaxed on the range, you got to keep those bugs soothed....
  11. You need to keep them fed....no food and they'll start trying to eat through the mesh to get out
  12. whowadat

    Feeding question

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    New cockroach book

    Depends on the book....look at what the book Rhacodactylus: The Complete Guide to their Selection and Care costs.....125.00 to 200.00 bucks....(Crested Geckos) Its the bible for Crested Geckos enthusiasts and a feather in your cap if you have it on hand to show your friends.....dropping that kind of coin is no big deal if you're a serious hobbyist with the desire to learn. http://www.ebay.com/itm/151882648669?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT http://www.amazon.com/Rhacodactylus-Complete-Guide-their-Selection/dp/0974297100/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464400790&sr=8-1&keywords=Rhacodactylus%3A+The+Complete+Guide+to+their+Selection+and+Care If you're looking to make the definitive book on roaches, the most complete "encyclopedia" that will in effect be the bible never to be bested in its entiriety.....then one book and charge three figures for it. If you write it...it will sell Now myself, I'm easily bored with a short attention span.....why bother with one BIG book...break it down into 3,4,5, or 6 books....one out every other year...load it with pictures.....have folks send you pics giving them credit for the photo in the book.....load it with information where every question imagined is answered in a reference focusing in on a particular region maybe, how 'bout a book on the BIG boys and rarities, maybe a book on breeding, lots of other categories could be focused on. Beside it being your legacy and worthy of your very best effort which should make you proud of the book, but you will also be giving back to the hobby and putting a buck in your pocket....no shame in that.....donate a portion of the proceeds if you wanted to a university or project related to roaches that can expand the knowledge base. Think big...half measures avail us nothing imho