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Does anybody have these in culture, a picture, or at least a common name? The only info I can really find on them is phylogenetic relations and toxonomy.

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Does anybody have these in culture, a picture, or at least a common name? The only info I can really find on them is phylogenetic relations and toxonomy.

I have a black and white photo that is very old. I think these are one of many that may be referred to as a "pancake roach". ?

Now the real question is why do you ask about such an obscure roach?

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I was doing some research on different roach phylogenies and RNA sequencing stuff and couldn't find any information on them. I was just curious since I have never heard of them before so I wanted to know more about them. It wasn't a "need to know" question but a "would like to know". Kind of like with some of these wood roaches from Australia with blue legs, cool spots, and such. There just isn't a lot of information accessible by internet on some of these really intriguing species which is frustrating. I find it really interesting that there are hundreds of scientists studying panda bears and “cute” creatures but no one gives a second glance to a roach or beetle that is many times more beautiful in it’s own right and quite possibly closer to destruction. Oh well, I guess that’s all part of being an entomologist. May be the only way to find out more about them is to fly there and do my own study.

I have a black and white photo that is very old. I think these are one of many that may be referred to as a "pancake roach". ?

Now the real question is why do you ask about such an obscure roach?

??? :blink:

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... May be the only way to find out more about them is to fly there and do my own study.

Cool. My experience: Searching for a target roach specie in the tropics is interesting. You probably wont find what you are looking for but also find 6 new ones that you have not seen before that make the trip worthwhile. Great fun!

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Where have you been? I've always wanted to go to Costa Rica or Brazil...Mostly to mess with some T's. Although the more I learn the more about cockroaches the greater the probability I'd be rummaging around the leaf litter for roaches. Truly fascinating.

Cool. My experience: Searching for a target roach specie in the tropics is interesting. You probably wont find what you are looking for but also find 6 new ones that you have not seen before that make the trip worthwhile. Great fun!

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I just Googled it and got nothing useful in either the web or image search.

Dang I would like to see what they look like. They sound interesting.

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I found a pic. Try googling "pancake roach Phortioeca phoraspoides" and it should be the third and last result. Scroll down a little. If that doesn't work, try Google's book search: Cockroaches: Ecology, Behavior, and Natural History. A few other really neat roaches on the page, too!

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Thanks Ralph. I initally tried a google search but I didn't include the pancake part :rolleyes: so no hits. I actually have that book on the way...it's pretty interesting some of the different morphotypes in cockroaches. It blows my mind, roaches are so interesting.

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You're welcome. The next mystery to solve (besides the crazy head shield!) is what the adult looks like. How much did the book cost, and where did you get it, by the way. It looks like the type of thing I'd just bury myself in. One more Q: how many pages?

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Oh wow! I love the pronotums on these! Beautiful photos and roaches!

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The book (Cockroaches: Ecology, Behavior, and Natural History. Bell, Roth, et.al) is 230 pages. From Half.com it ranges from $64-162, you could also try Amazon (this isn't with shipping mind you, keep an eye out). You may be able to find it somewhere else cheaper but I doubt it and both Half and Amazon are very reliable. Once you look at it from a text book point of view it's actually not that bad. I was required to buy a book this semester for $95 and it is less than 150 pages (not to mention it's poorly written and the professor is probably getting a kick back for making it mandatory). Anyway, I actually got it through the IILIAD interlibrary loan system through the college I attend. It is supposed to be coming soon next week or so. The library is one of the greatest, most under used resources I have come across while attending college. Matt K- how did you come across those pictures?

You're welcome. The next mystery to solve (besides the crazy head shield!) is what the adult looks like. How much did the book cost, and where did you get it, by the way. It looks like the type of thing I'd just bury myself in. One more Q: how many pages?

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This book has gone on my wish list. Thank you!

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... ;) I scour the world looking for roaches, pics of roaches, any info I can gather on roaches, and travel several times a year looking for interesting things; roaches in particular. Bugs are cool but roaches rule!

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... ;) I scour the world looking for roaches, pics of roaches, any info I can gather on roaches, and travel several times a year looking for interesting things; roaches in particular. Bugs are cool but roaches rule!

I agree with you 100%. I'm planning to do this too. I've already done it tons of times when going to camp and places upstate and stuff. Even around my house you get some really nice looking insects. Roaches yes but only P. americana and the German cockroach. Darn it!

Would like to see some other ones in person besides those. I could live without seeing those 2 but they're so many different ones out there that I would like to see including whatever else comes along with them. :D

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Does the natural history museum there in New York have a display with roaches?

I agree with you 100%. I'm planning to do this too. I've already done it tons of times when going to camp and places upstate and stuff. Even around my house you get some really nice looking insects. Roaches yes but only P. americana and the German cockroach. Darn it!

Would like to see some other ones in person besides those. I could live without seeing those 2 but they're so many different ones out there that I would like to see including whatever else comes along with them. :D

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Big, beautiful, unique... Those are too cool! Matt, are you going to try and get any? Too bad about the book, I cannot afford that. I've never been to New York, but you could ask Keith.

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I think so. I'm sure though. I haven't been there in a while.

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That reminded me of a roach from Costa Rica someone posted up on the Allpet Roaches forum in May of 06 but when I looked it up they don't look anything like those.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5394/10...ancockroach.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5394/10...600/darthid.jpg

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That reminded me of a roach from Costa Rica someone posted up on the Allpet Roaches forum in May of 06 but when I looked it up they don't look anything like those.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5394/10...ancockroach.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5394/10...600/darthid.jpg

Those are cool looking. Do the photos come from your blog or what? Would like a link to it because I've got a feeling it's about insects or something of the sort. Thankies. And Google can be a pain in the butt when you're trying to look up something and it's not there.

Hate that. It has happened to me loads of times. Too many to count.

What species are the roaches in the pics?

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That looks like the same thing! It appears somewhat smaller, maybe it's just in the same genus. Looks like a male, if other roach standards apply for Phortioeca.

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That looks like the same thing! It appears somewhat smaller, maybe it's just in the same genus. Looks like a male, if other roach standards apply for Phortioeca.

It does appear to be a male, and likely related but not the same genus. This cockroach is an unidentified species found in Costa Rica, the pictures were originally posted by one of our members (the lady who owns that blog) in 06 but the old picture links were lost when the thread was transferred.

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Here is a photo of one taken by a young man in Brazil who happens to love macrophotography:

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They look like their wearing a cloak, uber cool! ;)

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