Landasaw Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Are there any other non-burrowing, non-climbing feeder species people use than lateralis? I live in an apartment and an infestation could get me evicted. I don't trust lateralis especially from what I have been hearing. Young blaberus just burrow and are hard for amphibs to find in substrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Eurycotis decipiens might work thouth I don't know if amphibians will eat them. Deropeltis are neat but their defense might just kill the amphibians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSUN Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 what does Deropeltis use as defense? Eurycotis decipiens might work thouth I don't know if amphibians will eat them. Deropeltis are neat but their defense might just kill the amphibians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crittergu Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Can't E. decipiens climb though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Are there any other non-burrowing, non-climbing feeder species people use than lateralis? I live in an apartment and an infestation could get me evicted. I don't trust lateralis especially from what I have been hearing. Young blaberus just burrow and are hard for amphibs to find in substrate. No, that's the only one in the hobby. The only other roach that is a high profile, non-burrower that can't climb is B.orientalis which is a far worse pest. Can't E. decipiens climb though? Yeagh, I lost track as I considered the answer. I was just thinking of species that can't burrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landasaw Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 Well the good thing about the egg laying is that I keep the population in check by just throwing out egg cases....I'm definately going to make a bucket cage for lateralis and keep the population down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crittergu Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Assuming you toss non-climbing out of the equation...how do E. decipiens and Panchlora nivea do? Are they prolfiic enough to match the more common feeder roaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Assuming you toss non-climbing out of the equation...how do E. decipiens and Panchlora nivea do? Are they prolfiic enough to match the more common feeder roaches? Actually, any roach is prolific enough. It depends on colony size. If a roach can produce 200 nymphs a year, you need a smaller colony. If a roach only produces 15 nymphs a year, you need a huge colony. Either way if you have enough of the specie, you will have enough production. So it really boils down to what roach you like! For me that's all of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Assuming you toss non-climbing out of the equation...how do E. decipiens and Panchlora nivea do? Are they prolfiic enough to match the more common feeder roaches? Panchlora are quite prolific and easy. E. decipiens are prolific but aren't especially accepting of abuse. Older cultures would barely survive but after enough generations they seem to do very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Panchlora are quite prolific and easy. E. decipiens are prolific but aren't especially accepting of abuse. Older cultures would barely survive but after enough generations they seem to do very well. Gyna lurida may be another option. Mine have been reproducing pretty fast. If not that I would also recommend the Panchlora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crittergu Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 And the cost of starting a massive colony...which for B. lateralis is cheap because people's pets like them but people generally arent fond of them! So is their, then, a nonclimbing, small/soft species similar to lateralis that is prolific? Lets throw burrowing out for a bit. I think I may go with Panchlora, but man setting up a sizeable colony will be expensive/time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 And the cost of starting a massive colony...which for B. lateralis is cheap because people's pets like them but people generally arent fond of them! So is their, then, a nonclimbing, small/soft species similar to lateralis that is prolific? Lets throw burrowing out for a bit. I think I may go with Panchlora, but man setting up a sizeable colony will be expensive/time consuming. ...and you do not want lobster roaches ?? Easy, soft, reproduce quick, tiny vaseline barrier and they stay put. Panchlora grow pretty quick, so one culture starter will get you going as fast as anything else. Nymphs dont go anywhere but adult can fly and are good at finding cracks to escape from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crittergu Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Aren't lobsters also known to infest? I've heard people saying they are tough to keep contained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 So is their, then, a nonclimbing, small/soft species similar to lateralis that is prolific? Lets throw burrowing out for a bit. Formosan sand roach is a smaller, nonclimbing species that's prolific. Aren't lobsters also known to infest? I've heard people saying they are tough to keep contained. They might make a home in a greenhouse or animal room but not a normal home or building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crittergu Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 so while lobsters may last longer in your house...lateralis are more likely to infest? Are lobsters any hardier than green bananas? Me thinks green bananas would die soon after leaving cozy protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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