Matt K Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Ok- so would anyone who knows facts about V-Horn hissers please remind me why they went extinct in captive culture? How many were imported originally, how did they fare, how many generations concieved, etc. ..... Thanks! Orin? You would know. George? Can you chime in from Europe on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ok- so would anyone who knows facts about V-Horn hissers please remind me why they went extinct in captive culture? How many were imported originally, how did they fare, how many generations concieved, etc. ..... Thanks! Orin? You would know. George? Can you chime in from Europe on this? As far as I know this species never occured in the European hobby (though I'm sure some were sent there from the US at some point). It was in the USA from 1996-2007. Apparently only one guy had a large culture going but he mostly sent out adult pairs and one day he realized he had almost entirely males left and when his colony failed through his error nobody else seemed to have them going (which was odd because they really weren't at all difficult). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 So there's a chance some basement breeder has a colony going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted May 28, 2009 Author Share Posted May 28, 2009 So there's a chance some basement breeder has a colony going? Its possible, but unlikely I think. Seems like if there were someone would 'know somebody' who has them.... they are pretty sought after (at least by me!) ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Didn't James at Blaberus have them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted May 29, 2009 Author Share Posted May 29, 2009 No. I talked with him about this. He did have two older ones at one point, but the female died before reproducing. The male was then put with a normal female portentosa and he thought he made hybrids, but then the male died and the nymphs grew up appearing as normal portentosa (the female may have bred with another male prior), at which point the culture was abandoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Ooh... Hmm... Do you know where he acquired his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted May 29, 2009 Author Share Posted May 29, 2009 Ooh... Hmm... Do you know where he acquired his? Yes. There are no more available from that source. ...its been at least 2 or 3 years since anyone had seen or heard of them, and probably 5 or more since they were in captive care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I'm assuming going to collect wild ones would be either illegal or very difficult, right? It's too bad they went "extinct" in the hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 I'm assuming going to collect wild ones would be either illegal or very difficult, right? It's too bad they went "extinct" in the hobby. Well, not illegal, but very difficult. You would need the required import permits for the USA. You would need export permits from Madagascar and an exporter to work as a handler. From what I gather in Madagascar this is very difficult and//or expensive these days. Then there is the current problem with the people of Madagascar and some violence going on there with the (yet again) upset in the government....though this has been happening off and on for 40 or 50 years I think... George Beccaloni was there in the past couple years to collect the neat-o hisser L.maxima, but I do not know if it was just documentation or if he brought any livestock back to his home in England (I think he lives in London ???) While his tripo nmay have preceded violent uprising in the area, he could certainly speak to the red taped end of the issue..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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