likebugs Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Darn, I am no good with computer stuff and it won't let me put on more than 1 pic. I hope it is good enough for an ID, and I love the way the roach is black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likebugs Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 Another view of same roach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likebugs Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 Ventral view of same roach. My pics came out huge! I hope it is not too annoying. It was a challenge for me to even get them on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Looks like some sort of hisser. It's either a black morph of Gromphadorhina portentosa or Gromphadorhina grandidieri. Few people keep the black form of G. grandidieri so it's likely portentosa. Also, it could be "Princisia vanwaerebeki" but the validity of that genus is being disputed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likebugs Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 Can I assume it is a male? I assumed that it was, because of the smaller last segment viewed ventrally. Can they be accurately sexed as nymphs at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hmmmm Zephyr it looks like a hybrid to me? "Black" hisser x "tiger" hisser? I could be wrong, though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hmmmm Zephyr it looks like a hybrid to me? "Black" hisser x "tiger" hisser? I could be wrong, though.... It's pretty much impossible to tell at this size. Even then, there's the argument that all the various hisser species are just color morphs of each other. **EDIT- coincidentally, even G. oblongonata nymphs can be black like that at times. We'll have to see the adult to even try to be sure of what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Can I assume it is a male? I assumed that it was, because of the smaller last segment viewed ventrally. Can they be accurately sexed as nymphs at all. Yes, it is a male. You can sex them at their second molt if you've got a REALLLLLLLLLLY keen eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 It's pretty much impossible to tell at this size. Even then, there's the argument that all the various hisser species are just color morphs of each other. **EDIT- coincidentally, even G. oblongonata nymphs can be black like that at times. We'll have to see the adult to even try to be sure of what it is. Good point..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likebugs Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yes, it is a male. You can sex them at their second molt if you've got a REALLLLLLLLLLY keen eye. Well, thank goodness! This roach is nearly as long as the adult males of its culture mates, but he doesn't hiss or even behave anything like the adult male shown here, from the same bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Looks like G. portentosa (the male from the last pic.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Well, thank goodness! This roach is nearly as long as the adult males of its culture mates, but he doesn't hiss or even behave anything like the adult male shown here, from the same bin. Looks like G. portentosa (the male from the last pic.) Would that mean it's more likely to be a hybrid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Would that mean it's more likely to be a hybrid? It very well could be just a black G. portentosa. They pop up often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Yeah. I sometimes how people have those orange ones and nothing else. Is it interbreeding or genetics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likebugs Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 I think they are great, even if I can't be sure what species they are. The black one is calm and curious. The adult seems very uptight, he postures and hisses alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I think they are great, even if I can't be sure what species they are. The black one is calm and curious. The adult seems very uptight, he postures and hisses alot. One of my favorite things about hissers: Their personalities! As for IDing, they outwardly look just like mine which were bought as G. portentosa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibiscusmile Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Havent had them yet. Was afraid to have something other than hubby who hisses at me ps: hey Peter, where is smiley whos tounge moves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likebugs Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 The black roach molted last night and his stripes were no longer visible. He has a more typical shape now. I am sure that they were the skin in between abdominal segments, as my surinams look like this when they are fat or before a molt. He has a more typical shape now. The 4 white markings on his mesonotum and metanotum are just as striking as they were, and he is developing some horns. He came out to eat half of a banana slice, in the daylight. I love that he is so calm and cool. Now, I can see some white between the segments when he moves to the side. I can't believe how much he could eat in one setting. But, I am new to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisserman Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Havent had them yet. Was afraid to have something other than hubby who hisses at me ps: hey Peter, where is smiley whos tounge moves? there isn't one on the roach forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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