Allpet Roaches 116 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 Now I was thinking that the only Armadillidium I would feel confident keeping together because they seem so different is A. versicolor and A. klugii. There are some odd looking immatures in the enclosure that may prove that theory wrong. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hisserdude 838 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 Oh no not another hybridization epidemic, you know how many people are keeping isopod species of the same genera with each other right now? 😂 I was hoping it was impossible for them to hybridize... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allpet Roaches 116 Posted May 26 Author Report Share Posted May 26 I may be jumping the gun but the spots on some of the partly grown "klugii" look like short stripes (a line instead of a spot). They are only about 4 mm but I don't remember klugii babies looking like that before. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hisserdude 838 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 9 minutes ago, Allpet Roaches said: I may be jumping the gun but the spots on some of the partly grown "klugii" look like short stripes (a line instead of a spot). They are only about 4 mm but I don't remember klugii babies looking like that before. Well keep us posted, will be interesting to see what they turn into! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allpet Roaches 116 Posted May 28 Author Report Share Posted May 28 I put a photo of mate guarding between the two species in the Isopod Zoology book but I thought it was all just in fun at that time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hisserdude 838 Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 22 hours ago, Allpet Roaches said: I put a photo of mate guarding between the two species in the Isopod Zoology book but I thought it was all just in fun at that time. Yeah I saw that, didn't think much of it though since those two species seemed quite different and I have yet to see anyone else report hybridization... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allpet Roaches 116 Posted May 29 Author Report Share Posted May 29 If you saw some of these you'd be 100% sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arthroverts 36 Posted June 1 Report Share Posted June 1 Wow, this is really good to know. Keep us updated, looking forward to seeing how this ends up. Thanks for sharing, Arthroverts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hisserdude 838 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Any pictures of these hybrids? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arthroverts 36 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Yeah, I noticed these are being sold as well. Does that mean they aren't sterile hybrids? Thanks, Arthroverts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acro 21 Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 On 5/27/2020 at 8:58 PM, Allpet Roaches said: I put a photo of mate guarding between the two species in the Isopod Zoology book but I thought it was all just in fun at that time. Any updates Orin? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allpet Roaches 116 Posted August 10 Author Report Share Posted August 10 On 8/4/2020 at 5:31 PM, Acro said: Any updates Orin? I have boatloads of hybrids. I even put them on my trade/sale list. I will have a pic on the August 2020 invert mag cover front or back. I'm so behind on it, it might not ship till Aug. 31. When I do I'll post the cover pic here (assuming it's on the front). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrGhostMantis 4 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 I don’t recommend selling them, it may muddle the species. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allpet Roaches 116 Posted August 31 Author Report Share Posted August 31 August 2020 issue of Invertebrates-Magazine Horsehead grasshoppers from SA, twisted clowns, description of the L3 of Hemiphileurus illatus, Japanese beetle supplies, and the world's largest grasshopper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allpet Roaches 116 Posted August 31 Author Report Share Posted August 31 On 8/22/2020 at 8:35 PM, MrGhostMantis said: I don’t recommend selling them, it may muddle the species. I agree very much with you in the sense that unidentified hybrids have led to some tainted blood lines. Since the two "species" are sympatric it is unlikely they really are different species. In the case of hissers there's the idea that in nature they are isolated so maybe they're 'real' species but the types for these are "both" Dalmatia. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acro 21 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 18 hours ago, Allpet Roaches said: twisted clowns Thanks for posting the photo! Looks like there's a good amount of variation in the hybrids, that leans toward one adult parent or the other, with some being in between. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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