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Hi, i have a colony in a 64 litre tub and some of my roaches i see wandering around with loose droppings trailing from their back areas.

I use Bug gel for water and feed Smackos dog meat sticks (a dog type treat).

They are kept in eggtrays with no substrate.

Does this happen now and again anyway (ive only kept them for just over a year) the loose droppings ?

Also i am getting occassional dead roaches of various ages for no apparent reason, is this just common ? The colony itself are healthy and kept at about 85F

and 50ish % humidity.

Cheers for any feedback.

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http://www.petsathom...trip-dog-treats

Could the food have too much moisture to start with ?, possibly try dry dog food, but the protein isnt as high i read on dry dog foods.

Composition and Nutrition Main Flavour: Mixed Variety. Composition: Meat and Animal Derivatives (min. 4% Fresh Meat, min. 4% Chicken, min. 4% Lamb, min. 4% Rabbit, min. 4% Turkey), Derivatives Of Vegetable Origin, Various Sugars, Minerals, Oils and Fats. Analytical Constituents: Moisture 17.5%, Protein 26%, Oils and Fats 10%, Fibre 12%, Ash 4%. Feeding Guide (approximate per day) Feed as a treat or reward anytime.Please always ensure that fresh drinking water is available.Pets should be supervised at all times whilst feeding.Please feed responsibly as part of a balanced diet.This information is provided as a guide only. Please refer to the product packaging for full details.

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I think you should just feed them vegetable stuff... Like oatmeal and fresh fruits and vegetables... In the wild roaches will eat meat oppurtunistically but I think they're really mostly vegetarian.

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I don't like to feed my roaches animal protein. It makes them poor feeders for reptiles. Too much animal protein in the feeders' diet can give the reptiles gout. I like to use chick starter feed for protein. It's only about 22% protein but it's a lot healthier than dog food. All my roaches love it.

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"Avoid high protein foods: High protein foods like dog food or cat food, while appropriate for mammals, can be detrimental for roaches. Although they have traditionally been part of roach diets, recent research as described above suggests that they be eliminated."

Quoted from link , ill try some fruit and veg more as well.

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What do you mean? I think they researched it because they noticed that their product was killing roaches. That's not really advertising.

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They geared their product to reptile keepers. This protein logic came about to stop lizards from dying from gout which is a much bigger business. Gout seems to be much more related to enclosure humidity (dehydration) than anything else though in reptiles. I keep both and was just wondering if anyone not being paid by this information came up with the same conclusion.

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I simply feed my roaches water gel, carrots, oranges, and chicken feed. Never had any problems with any of my animals.

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I started feeding dry dog food and carrots, blimey they go for carrots like wolves on a piece of meat :P

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That'll be much better. If you really want to see them go crazy, just put in a fruit they haven't had in a while.

Sometimes, though, I see individual roaches with stringy or extra-moist frass. Chronic issues with it are usually indicative of a husbandry problem, I've seen it when the habitat is kept too wet before. Isolated cases of it just seem to happen, though, and do not seem to pose a threat to their health. I bet it's uncomfortable, though!

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