Matttoadman Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 So if you had a 40 gallon long and wanted an invert for display, what would you pick. I’m going to be doing some tank shuffling soon and this is what I’m thinking about. It will be in my living room so it needs to be active, not shy of lights or activity and be able to live in a naturalistic set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 I have thought about a Whipspiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I would recommend grasshoppers or katydids, both are active in light and (at least the grasshoppers) even bask! They do frequently tend to dirty up the walls of the tank with frass though, so that's the one downside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 38 minutes ago, All About Insects said: I would recommend grasshoppers or katydids, both are active in light and (at least the grasshoppers) even bask! They do frequently tend to dirty up the walls of the tank with frass though, so that's the one downside. I would also pick some sort of Orthopteran, though I prefer carnivores, like Neobarrettia sp. for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Hisserdude said: I would also pick some sort of Orthopteran, though I prefer carnivores, like Neobarrettia sp. for example. Those are very eye-catching, but once one's been exposed to the sheer awesomeness of (primarily) herbivores like Romalea microptera, Brachystola magna, Stilpnochlora couloniana, and Poecilotettix pantherinus in person, there is no turning back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, All About Insects said: Those are very eye-catching, but once one's been exposed to the sheer awesomeness of (primarily) herbivores like Romalea microptera, Brachystola magna, Stilpnochlora couloniana, and Poecilotettix pantherinus in person, there is no turning back. There is if you don't have the time or interest in providing them with proper host plants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Hisserdude said: There is if you don't have the time or interest in providing them with proper host plants! No specific host plants needed for any of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, All About Insects said: No specific host plants needed for any of those. Like, will they eat just lettuce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hisserdude said: Like, will they eat just lettuce? YES! As well as some of the other cheap leafy greens and many houseplants and "juicy weeds" as I'm told. Their polyphagous nature was one of the main things that got me so pumped for attempting to breed some! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, All About Insects said: YES! As well as some of the other cheap leafy greens, as well as many houseplants and "juicy weeds" as I'm told. Huh, that's good to know, not AS time consuming and needy as I thought then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Hisserdude said: Huh, that's good to know, not AS time consuming and needy as I thought then! Yea, you still have to make the hoppers lay in special egg cups and then give them a diapause and stuff, but it is definitely worth it in the end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Wow these fantastically awesome. Although I’m sure they are fantastically noisey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Matttoadman said: Wow these fantastically awesome. Although I’m sure they are fantastically noisey I don't actually think the species of grasshopper I listed make any sort of sound at adulthood, although the Giant Katydids, Stilpnochlora couloniana, do supposedly make a faint mating call on occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, All About Insects said: Yea, you still have to make the hoppers lay in special egg cups and then give them a diapause and stuff, but it is definitely worth it in the end! Ah, yeah that kinda sucks lol, but I'm sure it's worth it in the long run! At least, if you are passionate about them that is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Hisserdude said: At least, if you are passionate about them that is! Passion is everything, some is even needed to keep the easiest roach species alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tleilaxu Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I'd get a group of Chinese mantis for it, a common yet impressive species, it will be no serious loss of one eats another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, All About Insects said: Passion is everything, some is even needed to keep the easiest roach species alive. True dat man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmont Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I have a 40 gallon tank that I’m going to split with a plexiglass divider, and put AGB,s in one side and Giant blue Philippine millipedes on the other side, when I get a larger set up for my buisness I’m going to get a few 40 gallon tanks and split them 2 or 3 times with dividers to hold my millipedes, expensive I know. But it would be awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Where would you find these hoppers and katydids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Matttoadman said: Where would you find these hoppers and katydids? Pretty much only Kyle, unless you could find a collector. If you're able to get ahold of him, he should have a bunch of different orthopterans hatching in a couple months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 4 hours ago, All About Insects said: Pretty much only Kyle, unless you could find a collector. If you're able to get ahold of him, he should have a bunch of different orthopterans hatching in a couple months. If I contact Kyle, He will go into hiding again. Every time I tried to contact him he would vanish for months on end. Not worth my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 My biggest display tank is for Blaberus giganteus and I have seen some fantastic massive displays for this species at insect zoos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dactylus Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 On 10/20/2017 at 8:33 PM, All About Insects said: Those are very eye-catching, but once one's been exposed to the sheer awesomeness of (primarily) herbivores like Romalea microptera, Brachystola magna, Stilpnochlora couloniana, and Poecilotettix pantherinus in person, there is no turning back. Have you personally kept any of the 4 species that you mentioned above? I'm considering setting up a display tank for a large lubber species in 2018... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Lubbers are relatively simple, there are some articles on keeping them in older invert-mags. However, Brachystola aren't easy to get hatchlings from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 5 hours ago, dactylus said: Have you personally kept any of the 4 species that you mentioned above? I'm considering setting up a display tank for a large lubber species in 2018... Yep, I currently have a starter group of R.microptera "Yellow"; the others I'll definitely be getting in the future as well. If you put in the little bit of effort for incubating the eggs, that could be a dazzling setup for years and years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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