buddylee79 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Hello roach fans, I have looked around the web and the forum and can't really find what I'm after. How many different hissers are there? These are the ones I can find info(of sorts) on: G. portentosa G. Oblongata E. Chopardi E. laevigata G. grandidieri and the debatable P. Vanwaerebeki (what is the deal with this guy?). Are there any others? What are they? Thanks Buddylee79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Hello roach fans, I have looked around the web and the forum and can't really find what I'm after. How many different hissers are there? These are the ones I can find info(of sorts) on: G. portentosa G. Oblongata E. Chopardi E. laevigata G. grandidieri and the debatable P. Vanwaerebeki (what is the deal with this guy?). Are there any others? What are they? Thanks Buddylee79 Aeluropoda insignis Elliptorhina chopardi Elliptorhina javanica Leozehntnera maxima Gromphadorhina portentosa Gromphadorhina brunneri Gromphadorhina picea Gromphadorhina grandidieri Gromphadorhina laevigata Gromphadorhina oblongata Princisia vanwaerbecki (debateable) ...and depending on your definition then: Ateloblatta Coleoblatta Griffiniella Heminauphoeta Henschoutedenia Jagrehnia Nauphoeta Oxyhaloa Pelloblatta Pronauphoeta Rhypharobia Simandoa ...and I think I am missing one or two.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddylee79 Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 Aeluropoda insignis Elliptorhina chopardi Elliptorhina javanica Leozehntnera maxima Gromphadorhina portentosa Gromphadorhina brunneri Gromphadorhina picea Gromphadorhina grandidieri Gromphadorhina laevigata Gromphadorhina oblongata Princisia vanwaerbecki (debateable) ...and depending on your definition then: Ateloblatta Coleoblatta Griffiniella Heminauphoeta Henschoutedenia Jagrehnia Nauphoeta Oxyhaloa Pelloblatta Pronauphoeta Rhypharobia Simandoa ...and I think I am missing one or two.... Wow.....that is sure is more than I expected....Thanks Matt. Next question...where can I find pitcures of these fine critters, I looked and had some trouble. For future refrence(we all know how addicting roaches are), are they available? ...and depending on your definition then: Ateloblatta Coleoblatta Griffiniella Heminauphoeta Henschoutedenia Jagrehnia Nauphoeta Oxyhaloa Pelloblatta Pronauphoeta Rhypharobia Simandoa please explain buddylee79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Are those all in culture? What's the species name for V-horn "hissers?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddylee79 Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 What's the species name for V-horn "hissers?" From what I can gather, Elliptorhina laevigata = V-horn Hisser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 No, not all those are in culture. Of that list these are not as far as I know: Leozehntnera maxima Gromphadorhina laevigata ...and depending on your definition then: Ateloblatta Coleoblatta Griffiniella Heminauphoeta Jagrehnia Pelloblatta Pronauphoeta Simandoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 please explain buddylee79 I think he means roaches that hiss but are not closely related to hissers. Also, doesn't Aptera sp. hiss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I've heard Blaberus and Archimandrita hiss too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 That's from the wings rubbing against the abdomen or back legs. My B. craniifer do it a lot, I'm not sure if it's a defense mechanism or just an accidental thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 ORIN !!! Help !! Could you clarify these shennanigans? The definition of hissing is getting confused and bemuddled.... Rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharma Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hi Matt I think you mean the subfamily Oxyhaloinae because "hisser" isn't a valide name but a rather squishy colloquial term, don't you? It is in my opinion quite stupid to use a collective for just a few genera and ignoring the whole rest even though the former have the ability to hiss (making sound with their spiracles) in common and besides originate from the same habitat (Madagascar) whilst the later don't. Common laymen seem to need something simplistic which may contradict clear destinctions, reason and logic but that doesn't really matter cause no one cares. Neither the opiate of the masses nor the "hisser"-term can be or need to be precisely clarified... *soooorry* EDIT: Due to some confusion with my formulation I'd like to add this PM-answer: Sorry if it sounds to harsh! It wasn't my intention to humiliate anyone. If you have a 'nicer sounding translation' which wouldn't be misunderstood please let me know so I can change it! What I meant is something like this: - I don't like popular names for animals/plants much because they are very confusing especially when someone uses an english term for which there is not even a german translation and/or where there are several species included. - Common names are "something simplistic" and rarely are specific because everyone should be able to use them with no regard to his/her standard of knowledge (so there can't be any strict rule for this terms). I see that it is quite important for normal live to use such names (or other simplified terms) because no one can handle every specialist term/field (Me to; as it looks I'm a layman regarding english writing rolleyes.gif ) and every one is in one or the other field a layman and most people are in at least some aspects of life 'common' and there is nothing bad about that. - This here is a roach forum and in my opinion we should use scientific names especially for species which are traded under different confusing common names (like the 'hissers'). Everyone who feels fine only with common names I call "a common laymen" in that particular item (well, for me as a Swiss-german speeking person the translation is nothing adverse) -> correct me if I'm wrong (and give me the correct engl. word please)!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I think the hissing that other species of roach make is produced when they produce their defence odors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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