lovebugfarm Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I was going threw my pepper roach bin yesterday and found these guys they don't seem to match any of my other roaches so I figured I should ask for an id. It's interesting the top half of their body is shiny and in the right light a deep maroon the lower half is mate and black. Any help or guesses would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Here's one showing their belly some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Either Pycnoscelus or Panchlora, probably Pycnoscelus surinamensis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 I have a feeling it's Pycnoscelus surinamensis to also I hope so I don't have those yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Pretty sure its P.surinamensis due to the fact that they often end up in other roaches' enclosures. Probably got in your peppered roach supplier's bins and they then stowed away in the package and ended up with you. You'll soon have tons of them, they are very prolific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cariblatta lutea Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hissersude is right. This is P. Surinamensis nymph. Easiest way to tell these from Pnachlora nymphs is to let it climb on smooth surface. Pycnoscelus can climb over smooth areas whereas Panchlora nymphs cant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Yeah it was a lil foolish of me to just dump the roaches and soil out into my bin I should have taken out each roach and discarded the soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 These definantly cant climb I put them in a lil solo deli plastic cup and they were sliping around like crazy couldnt get out of a cup thats 1.5" tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Could it be panchlora nivea nymph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cariblatta lutea Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 These definantly cant climb I put them in a lil solo deli plastic cup and they were sliping around like crazy couldnt get out of a cup thats 1.5" tall That's weird....these look like Pycnoscelus to me but maybe the picture is making them look like Pycnoscelus. Either that or there could be some substance on the cups such as dusts that could be clinging onto the feet of the nymphs, making them unable to climb. We'll know for sure when they mature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 When they do I will look this thread up for an update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cariblatta lutea Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Great! Looking forward to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Looks like I didn't have to wait to long its a Surinam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Here's anouther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Looks like I didn't have to wait to long its a Surinam. Nice, better separate them, lest they outcompete your peppered roaches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Oh for sure my peppers are in quarintine while I freeze their soil. There was a serious earwig outbreak and as I combed threw their 4 inch substrate at the very bottom I found the Surinames. I was able to trade the earwigs so turned lemons into lemon aid. I need to read up on Surinames but from what I've seen they can't climb glass so they might be going into a giant jar for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcbpolish Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I keep my surinames in a gallon pickle jar. I toss old bits of egg crate from my other roach enclosures to them, and they eat it! (I also give protein on occasion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Oh for sure my peppers are in quarintine while I freeze their soil. There was a serious earwig outbreak and as I combed threw their 4 inch substrate at the very bottom I found the Surinames. I was able to trade the earwigs so turned lemons into lemon aid. I need to read up on Surinames but from what I've seen they can't climb glass so they might be going into a giant jar for now. Ok, good to hear! My large nymphs and adults can climb, so just in case you should always make sure they have a lid. Hope they do well for you, you should be swimming in them in no time! I keep my surinames in a gallon pickle jar. I toss old bits of egg crate from my other roach enclosures to them, and they eat it! (I also give protein on occasion) These guys eat anything! I threw in a whole rotten banana and they ate it, peel and all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 I think im gonna keep the lid on and rubberband screen over the top that way I can take the lid off an hour a day for air exchange. Once they start producing like crazy I will do a gasket bin with large mouth jar lids glued in the lid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 They produced thier first nymphs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 They produced thier first nymphs Haha, nice! Glad they have reproduced for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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