Matttoadman Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I just got in a large shipment of N cinerea and all the adults have short wings compared to the pics I have seen on Google. Anyone else seen this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannaking22 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Huh, that's weird. Could be a recessive gene in the colony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcbpolish Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I just got in a large shipment of N cinerea and all the adults have short wings compared to the pics I have seen on Google. Anyone else seen this? Can you take and post some pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Not the best pic sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 These are not chewed. A few are full length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cariblatta lutea Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I've noticed that males in my colony have shorter wings than my females. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Uggg, well I better start sexing them. It seems when guys send you adult roaches in with nymphs there is an overwhelming drive to send you males. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERVOUS Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hmm, I definitely have some with shorter and some with longer wings... Is wing length a sexually dimorphic trait for N. cinerea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I have ones with shorter and longer wings as well. My best guess would be sexual dimorphism. Which sex has the long wings and which sex has the short wings is beyond me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Also, why are you using substrate in the enclosure? Substrate provides no benefit for this species, and only makes it harder to find nymphs. Moist substrate is prone to mold too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 The substrate is just a thin layer of coco fiber. I figured a bit would help absorb any odor from the droppings. I haven't hand any mold problems thus far in any of my bins. I keep all the food in jar lids. I think food on the substrate is what lends to molding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERVOUS Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 The only way I've been able to positively sex N. cinerea is when I see an ootheca squish out of the abdomen while my Chameleon is eating one... Then I know that was a female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 The substrate is just a thin layer of coco fiber. I figured a bit would help absorb any odor from the droppings. I haven't hand any mold problems thus far in any of my bins. I keep all the food in jar lids. I think food on the substrate is what lends to molding. Yes, substrate itself usually doesn't mold, it's moist food that does. Food gets wet when it comes into contact with moist substrate, which then leads to molding. Food will also sometimes mold if the cage is humid, no matter if it's in a food bowl or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 I have had good luck with oats and fish flakes not molding. I change it out every other day in my pantanals (humid), and enough to feed my hissers for two days. Anything else molds quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I have had good luck with oats and fish flakes not molding. I change it out every other day in my pantanals (humid), and enough to feed my hissers for two days. Anything else molds quickly. My dog food molds in two days, so my feeding schedule is every other day. Wish it lasted longer. I guess that's what carrots are for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 My hissers are kept dry other than a nightly mist on the back half of the tank, I don't mist the substrate or food. No egg cartons though with the hissers. I am keeping the lobsters dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 My hissers are kept dry other than a nightly mist on the back half of the tank, I don't mist the substrate or food. No egg cartons though with the hissers. I am keeping the lobsters dry. Yeah my hisser's food never molds, the cage is much too dry for that. Same goes for my Polyphaga species. There are also no mites in those enclosures, if only all roaches thrived in such dry conditions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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