Roach collector Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Me being relatively new to hissers having only ever kept a couple adult male Madagascar hissers I want to keep another species but don't know which one would be the best for me. I want a species that doesn't have super spikes legs and a smaller size. Any hisser species that you'd think would have these characteristics please post the name and any other information. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 E.javanica and E.chopardi fit those guidelines., A.insignis might be another one but I don't know how spiky their legs are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Ok I really love the way the javanicas look. How fast do they breed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Lemur Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Ok I really love the way the javanicas look. How fast do they breed? They breed quite fast for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 How many did you start off with? Also how spikes are he legs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCrackerpants Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 They breed quite fast for me. What is your set up like? This species is not know for breeding fast. Maybe you have a secret you can share with the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Lemur Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I keep them dry with bi-weekly mistings of one corner. They've got coco fiber substrate, with rotting wood and oak leaves. Egg flats and cork bark for hiding. I feed mostly apples and carrots, with the occasional watermelon, sweet potatoe or squash, and pond sticks for protein. I keep their room at 75-85 at all times to help with breeding. For numbers, I started with 6 adults back in October. 2 or 3 died not long after I recieved them (possibly bad dry food, not sure). I was at probably 200+ but have traded off around 70 recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Cool I might get 3 or 4 from cape cod roaches at the end of June! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassExodus Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 What is your set up like? This species is not know for breeding fast. Maybe you have a secret you can share with the rest of us. I find that interesting. I have a colony of javanica, portentosa (hybrids) and insignis. The javanica are always fighting and breeding..they're breeding better than either of the other two species..noticeably better and faster..in fact I'm going to order more insignis from Doc soon because I want them to keep up with the javanica.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Ho spikes are the insignis legs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Ho spikes are the insignis legs? The legs spikes on A. insignis are pretty bad actually. Your best bet will be to get a dwarf hisser. (Genus Elliptorhina) As for the breeding speed of E. javanica, I've had terrible luck with this species. They are very difficult to breed IME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCrackerpants Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I keep them dry with bi-weekly mistings of one corner. They've got coco fiber substrate, with rotting wood and oak leaves. Egg flats and cork bark for hiding. I feed mostly apples and carrots, with the occasional watermelon, sweet potatoe or squash, and pond sticks for protein. I keep their room at 75-85 at all times to help with breeding. For numbers, I started with 6 adults back in October. 2 or 3 died not long after I recieved them (possibly bad dry food, not sure). I was at probably 200+ but have traded off around 70 recently. Nice...and thanks! Does this species do better at lower temps (75 F) versus the other hissers that do well at high temps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Nice...and thanks! Does this species do better at lower temps (75 F) versus the other hissers that do well at high temps? I don't mean to butt in on a question I wasn't asked, but dwarf hissers (especially E. javanica!) do better at higher temperatures. Low 80s at a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 So my best bet would be to get javanicas or chopardis right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCrackerpants Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I don't mean to butt in on a question I wasn't asked, but dwarf hissers (especially E. javanica!) do better at higher temperatures. Low 80s at a minimum. Thanks! Just curious since I had them in the 80s and they died out on me. Such a beautiful species but I must have done something wrong. My other hisser species continued to thrive but not these guys...also such a bummer since they are so awesome looking. Is there something special you need to do to get these guys to reproduce compared to other hisser species? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 So my best bet would be to get javanicas or chopardis right? Yep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Thanks! Just curious since I had them in the 80s and they died out on me. Such a beautiful species but I must have done something wrong. My other hisser species continued to thrive but not these guys...also such a bummer since they are so awesome looking. Is there something special you need to do to get these guys to reproduce compared to other hisser species? Thanks! I have no idea. Most of my E. javanica have died out as well, and they haven't made any offspring for me. People who have successfully bred them say they do better at high temperatures, and I know E. chopardi will only reproduce in the 80s, so it's a safe bet that's the case for E. javanica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCrackerpants Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I have no idea. Most of my E. javanica have died out as well, and they haven't made any offspring for me. People who have successfully bred them say they do better at high temperatures, and I know E. chopardi will only reproduce in the 80s, so it's a safe bet that's the case for E. javanica. OK. Thanks! I would love for someone that has had long term success with this species ( Elliptorhina javanica) to let us know about their enclosure set up and care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'm going to get so,e javanicas from Peter so I'll see if I have any luck with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCrackerpants Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'm going to get so,e javanicas from Peter so I'll see if I have any luck with them. Yes, please keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Sure will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCrackerpants Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Sure will! Thanks! Any idea what your enclosure set up and care will be? Just curious if anyone has the "magic bullet" for getting this species to reproduce. I hear of many people having trouble getting them to reproduce for many generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Well I'll be copying 910geckogals setup on YouTube that she used for here javanicas. She got here's to reproduce very well so I think it will work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCrackerpants Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Well I'll be copying 910geckogals setup on YouTube that she used for here javanicas. She got here's to reproduce very well so I think it will work for me. Thanks! I will look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach collector Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just bought 3 javanicas from peter and they should be coming next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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