Cariblatta lutea Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 After months of waiting, I'm finally seeing an adult! and he is spectacular! All the wait was worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Are you sure those aren't petevariana? I don't think bernhardti is really a species. Would you mind getting a picture of their underwings? I'm curious to compare your "bernhardti" to my petevariana. The underwing is supposedly what differentiates the two "species." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Cool, these aren't Therea petiveriana? They look identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cariblatta lutea Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Cool, these aren't Therea petiveriana? They look identical. Supposedly the true petiveriana isn't available in the hobby though I'm honestly not sure if bernhardti should really be treated as a valid species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Very nice, one of mine matured a few weeks ago as well, this species is beautiful! Hope the rest mature for you soon! I do hope the taxonomy gets cleared up with these soon, would really like to definitely know what species we have in the hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Supposedly the true petiveriana isn't available in the hobby though I'm honestly not sure if bernhardti should really be treated as a valid species. I agree. I think that petiveriana and bernhardti are the same species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenevanica Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I do hope the taxonomy gets cleared up with these soon, would really like to definitely know what species we have in the hobby. I'm working on that. With how cheap it is to sequence genomes nowadays, I'm working with some of my professors and their colleagues to see if we can get the genomes of Gromphadorhina sequenced. I suspect they're all the same species, and I'm wondering if my hypothesis would be supported by genetic evidence. Perhaps we can try Therea and Blaberus as well. No promises here though because genetic sequencing isn't really a dollar store job, even if it is going down in cost. I suspect I won't get the funding, as I'm still an undergrad. I will get the sequences done eventually though, you mark my words! I'm going to set cockroach taxonomy straight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cariblatta lutea Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 I'm working on that. With how cheap it is to sequence genomes nowadays, I'm working with some of my professors and their colleagues to see if we can get the genomes of Gromphadorhina sequenced. I suspect they're all the same species, and I'm wondering if my hypothesis would be supported by genetic evidence. Perhaps we can try Therea and Blaberus as well. No promises here though because genetic sequencing isn't really a dollar store job, even if it is going down in cost. I suspect I won't get the funding, as I'm still an undergrad. I will get the sequences done eventually though, you mark my words! I'm going to set cockroach taxonomy straight! Awesome! Looking forward to your findings! If I were you I'd try acquiring the holotypes of all the Therea species as well as what we currently have in captivity and sequence them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cariblatta lutea Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Very nice, one of mine matured a few weeks ago as well, this species is beautiful! Hope the rest mature for you soon! I do hope the taxonomy gets cleared up with these soon, would really like to definitely know what species we have in the hobby. Thanks Looks like most of my nymphs are subs so they are really close to maturing! and yes! While bernhardti seems to be recognized as valid species I really hope that someone will re-varify the validity of this species and tell us if we should call our dominos bernhardti or petiveriana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Is it possible hobby captives are hybrids. Im sure they werent properly ided when imported the only way to be sure is fresh locality specific imports from india/thier native range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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