Allpet Roaches Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Genetic deformities in roaches are rare and often once in a lifetime events, such as the hisser Gyandromorph depicted on the Allpet Roaches main page. While such deformities tend to be undesirable they usually can't be bred for anyway since the individual is incapable of reproducing. The following is a rare mutant of Blaptica dubia. At a glance it seems like an interesting mutation due to the white sections but on closer inspection the legs on the white side are deformed and the mutation is a result of bigger problems and not just a color issue. Unfortunately this animal died. Ryan Nefcy gave me permission to post his photos: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Yeah I saw that on Arachnoboards, very strange. I have a roach with 1 or 2 feet that are lighter than usual in color, almost a yellow-peach color, really weird. Its hard to get a picture though it's fast and I cant hold it still without injuring it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Hmm... I've always held to the thought that colonies need their genetic material refreshed once in a while, hence is why I purchased some nymphs from a local show to "replenish" my hisser colony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffeCi Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 German Cockroach Mutants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Whoa. I just checked my hissers today and thought this girl was molting, then I realized she wasn't. Won't she be able to reproduce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted September 29, 2007 Author Share Posted September 29, 2007 That's actually a pretty common deformity in hissers. I've seen it on giant stock and tigers. It may be sex linked because it seems like only females have it. It probably does not affect reproduction but it's the kind of deformity most people would feed off or at least isolate to prevent breeding. Also, someone just posted their photo on another thread. http://www.bidabug.org/Forum/index.php?act...=post&id=86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Odd.... shifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Check out this Hisser Nymph deformity.It looked fine before but after the third molt got this way.Is this due to inbreeding or some extrenal factor like temp,food,humidity or maybe overcrowding http://www.bidabug.org/Forum/index.php?act...post&id=142 http://www.bidabug.org/Forum/index.php?act...post&id=138 http://www.bidabug.org/Forum/index.php?act...post&id=139 http://www.bidabug.org/Forum/index.php?act...post&id=140 http://www.bidabug.org/Forum/index.php?act...post&id=141 Thx 4 your opinions and comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Check out this Hisser Nymph deformity.It looked fine before but after the third molt got this way.Is this due to inbreeding or some extrenal factor like temp,food,humidity or maybe overcrowding Thx 4 your opinions and comments I can't see your photos, they don't open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I can't see your photos, they don't open. I hope these links will work for you http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snv30990ur6.jpg http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snv30989xh4.jpg http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snv30987lp2.jpg http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snv30986lk8.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snv30985ov3.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 I've seen that deformity in hissers and I think it's due to damage, not a genetic cause. Still, wouldn't hurt to isolate that one and see how it looks in a molt or two or at adulthood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugmanPrice Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Genetic deformities in roaches are rare and often once in a lifetime events, such as the hisser Gyandromorph depicted on the Allpet Roaches main page. While such deformities tend to be undesirable they usually can't be bred for anyway since the individual is incapable of reproducing. The following is a rare mutant of Blaptica dubia. At a glance it seems like an interesting mutation due to the white sections but on closer inspection the legs on the white side are deformed and the mutation is a result of bigger problems and not just a color issue. Unfortunately this animal died. Ryan Nefcy gave me permission to post his photos: That's really odd. Do you know if the white part of the exoskelton was "cured" at all or was it just pliable like after a normal moult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Thats a colorful roach, interested in knowing if it molted to a normal color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acro Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Hey Orin, What is the other thread that the below picture come from? That's actually a pretty common deformity in hissers. I've seen it on giant stock and tigers. It may be sex linked because it seems like only females have it. It probably does not affect reproduction but it's the kind of deformity most people would feed off or at least isolate to prevent breeding. Also, someone just posted their photo on another thread. http://www.bidabug.org/Forum/index.php?act...=post&id=86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I've seen that deformity in hissers and I think it's due to damage, not a genetic cause. Still, wouldn't hurt to isolate that one and see how it looks in a molt or two or at adulthood. Yes,you were right,the nymph had an injury to the exoskeleton before the molt the chitin looked kinda healed and not white http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8091/snv31023jl9.jpg but after the molt the damaged chitin fell off http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9884/snv31036lm3.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snv31033wg2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Another hisser from Arachnoboards who matured with a deformity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Well, now we've got some scientific knowledge! This is great, we as a community on the cutting edge of the hobby! So exciting! We've disproved the sex-linked idea, seeing as the above roach is a male. Woo. We rock! XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 We've disproved the sex-linked idea, seeing as the above roach is a male. Woo. We rock! Albert Einstein would be proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 I've seen the same type of segment deformity on a red and black roach and even on millipedes. Here it is on a tiger hisser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugmanPrice Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Has anybody seen this on a roach, or anything else for that matter, in a wild specimen or just captively raised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 I've seen the same type of segment deformity on a red and black roach and even on millipedes. Here it is on a tiger hisser. Here's a millipede with the same type of segment deformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 That's one of those fire millipedes, isn't it? One of my hisser babies had something like that, only much less noticeable. He died from that humidity problem I had, but it was still kinda neat. Also, one nymph molted 2 days ago and then hurt his leg. He's still that yellow color though, and he doesn't seem to be darkening. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 Actually that's a Vietnamese rainbow millipede formerly known as Aulacobolus rubropunctatus but changed to Tonkinbolus - possibly- dollfusi and we'll see if there are any more revisions. The fire millipede from Madagascar is much nicer looking and bigger. Sickly animals sometimes have problems with the exoskeleton not hardening correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 It's not a perfect photo but I found a photo with the same deformity for Opisthoplatia: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 He died as expected (but another molted to l4!). Thanks for the photo, Orin. Genetic deformities can make some pretty wierd stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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