Lking518 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 What's the story behind this? I see all these dealers say they won't ship to Tennessee I even saw one site that said you needed to have a permit to own any type of hisser in Tennessee. If anyone could tell me why this is that would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistlingmedic Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I tried to research this a while back and yielded no results. I'm very curious to follow this post and see if anyone has an answer or a link to the laws or state regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncommonRoachBoy Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 It could have something to do withthe fact that hissers eat leaves. Thats one reason why its illegal to import phasmid species into the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncommonRoachBoy Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 This amestraight from Arachnoboards: "N/m about the legality, I read it again and it said it's unlawful to ship them into TN without a lisence but It also said the lisence isn't required to possess them. Weird, huh?" I would suggest calling your agriculture department for clarification or go to the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Thanks, the reason I asked this, I was wondering about getting me some hissers. Since I think they are very interesting but I kept seeing nobody would ship to TN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I think all non native roaches are illegal in florida, tennessee, and hawaii. I think theres fear they will get out and be invasive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 I don't think Dubia are seeing as how I keep those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 They are probably illegal to keep due to the fact that in theory, they could escape and survive in some of the southern states. I know in FL you can't keep any non-native species or any exotics that haven't already been introduced, don't know if it's the same in Tennessee or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 That's what I don't understand we don't have the same climate in TN compared to FL. I can definitely understand why almost anything exotic is illegal in FL. I guess its a "better safe than sorry" kind of thing for TN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varnon Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 The general answer is that laws are sometimes made by people that don't understand the concepts the laws are about. I see a lot of silly laws regarding animals. It make sense for Florida to have such laws. Tennessee is far to cold for that to be a concern, at least until global warming increases temperature substantially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 I emailed my local Agriculture department about this and I am waiting on a reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 I know this post is pretty old, but lets say, I go and buy some hissers the worst that could happen is the seller wouldn't ship them to my location right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncommonRoachBoy Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Call your department of agriculture. Talk to someone and see what they say. If the seller doesn't know its illegal, you could be fined if someone notices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 The seller is also at risk of fines or jail time. Ask tommy chong he had a bong business that shipped a bong to massachusits btw my spelling is bad. Anyway he went to jail for it he didnt even personally send it just his business did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ok, I was just curious what could happen if I tried to buy them. I sent an email to my depart of agriculture and she said she would let our state entomologist know and to look into this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Odds are it would be fine the only state i know that does regular inspections is california and they arent looking for roaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 Hmm? after researching more about this I read this: " The USDA does not require any special permits to ship and/or receive Hissing Cockroaches" so does that mean I would be fine to go ahead and order some hissers? I am gonna wait until I hear something from my state department of agriculture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 I just received this email from aphis: The USDA has dropped the permit requirement for domestic interstate movement of the Madagascar hissing cockroach, Gromphadorhina portentosa. Import would require a permit. You should check with Tennessee officials to see if they have any requirements. I'm not gonna import them as they are already here in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I just received this email from aphis: The USDA has dropped the permit requirement for domestic interstate movement of the Madagascar hissing cockroach, Gromphadorhina portentosa. Import would require a permit. You should check with Tennessee officials to see if they have any requirements. I'm not gonna import them as they are already here in the U.S. Wow, that's great, you should let some of the dealers who won't sell to Tennessee know about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 So this means I can get hissers in TN? I still am a little hesitant about buying some even after receiving this email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 There are three levels of government and each has thier own rules. Usda is federal so it applys to the country as a whole. Then theres state normally the fish and wildlife department but some states use different names. State level approval is what you need. Then theres local/county. A good example is dubia like hissers are legal nationally. However a state like florida or tennessee may ban certain spieces but only in that state. So its not illegal federally to ship however the state may press charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 So this means I can get hissers in TN? I still am a little hesitant about buying some even after receiving this email Yes it does, and that probably applies to all other roaches as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 I wonder if TWRA would be any help to this? I am gonna email them and see what they say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lking518 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 I just got a message back from my states entomologist and he said this: you would only need a permit if importing the species from outside the U.S. Domestic movement does not require a permit. So it looks like i'll be getting some hissers in the future if anyone wants to tell anyone that YES you can get hissers here in TN you are more than welcome to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovebugfarm Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Thats great to hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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