Zephyr Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I tried using this for my P aegyptiaca and was going to use it for my other substrate requiring roaches, but it appears to irritate them. *they were trying to climb up the sides of the enclosure* Is it okay to use as a substrate, and were my observations simply their reaction to a different smell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 (Isn't cypress bedding supposed to have some insecticidal properties, at least according to the package?) If they look irritated they probably are. Try potting soil mixed with ground old leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 (Isn't cypress bedding supposed to have some insecticidal properties, at least according to the package?) If they look irritated they probably are. Try potting soil mixed with ground old leaves. CYPRESS mulch is the one and only mulch that is SAFE to use as bedding for any creature. Pine and similar trees have naturally occurring insect repellants that irritate roaches, reptiles, etc. to varying degrees. Mulch sold as 'hardwood mulch' is usually not exclusively hardwood and often contains cedar which is very toxic to roaches. Cypress is totally safe and I use it in most of my roach bins mixed with oak leaves and coco fiber. That being said, I do not use it in polyphagid enclosures. It is too much texture that they cannot seem to deal with. They seem to prefer smaller bits that they can be fully immersed in. Example is P. aegyptica. They prefer a substrate that they can actually burrow in, and cypress is not it. My polyphagids are in tanks that have a mix of: Eco-earth (coco fiber bedding), a couple handfuls of organic potting soil, dead leaves crunched up and mixed in, about 2" or more deep. In one half of the substrate I mix in a handfull or two of calcium sand so they have a sandy side and not sandy side of the enclosure. The adults live mostly in the leafy side, but the nymphs are mostly in the sandy side, and the females always leave the ootheca in the sandy side of the enclosure. I have had multiple generations of P.aegyptica and Ergaula capucina in this type of setup and the only thing I do other than feed them is mist regularly and add more dead leaves (which they slowly consume). I have also heard that you can use nothing but vermiculite with some dead leaves thrown on top, but I have not tried that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugmanPrice Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 CYPRESS mulch is the one and only mulch that is SAFE to use as bedding for any creature. Pine and similar trees have naturally occurring insect repellants that irritate roaches, reptiles, etc. to varying degrees. Mulch sold as 'hardwood mulch' is usually not exclusively hardwood and often contains cedar which is very toxic to roaches. Cypress is totally safe and I use it in most of my roach bins mixed with oak leaves and coco fiber. I don't think that Apsen has any volitile phenols or other kind of anti-insect chemical compunds does it. I used to use it all the time. I had heard that Cypress isn't very ecofriendly because they munch up whole trees to make the shaving instead of just using byproducts from lumber production (not that I'm an enviromental radical or anything like that, don't get me wrong). Does anybody know for sure if it's true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I don't think that Apsen has any volitile phenols or other kind of anti-insect chemical compunds does it. I used to use it all the time. I had heard that Cypress isn't very ecofriendly because they munch up whole trees to make the shaving instead of just using byproducts from lumber production (not that I'm an enviromental radical or anything like that, don't get me wrong). Does anybody know for sure if it's true? You are correct... Aspen is a bug friendly product, though I found it to mold easily in my habitats. Cypress.... I suspect they do shred a whole tree, but am not too sure. Is there anything made from cypress lumber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 I'm going to try and use a mix of 25% aspen, 25% cypress, 50% shredded oak leaves. This sound good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachsmith Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I'm glad you asked about that. I always thought cypress had insecticide qualities and always avoided any substrate that said it had cypress in it. I usually make my own substrate out of peat moss, oak leaves and sometimes vermiculite to keep in moisture. Some of the reptile substrates with cypress in them looked kind of appealing though. Like the forest bed type of stuff that's a mixture of cypress and dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-Spawn Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (I realize this is a very old topic, I just don't see a point in making a new one) Â My town has an area for the residents to pickup free mulch. If I go grab some and photograph it would you guys be able to tell me what kind it is and whether it's good to go for my enclosures??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 If I'm not mistaken, the free mulch piles are places where aspaludh and other tree shredders dump their loads. It could be anything hard wood soft wood poison ivy vine. Not 100% though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-Spawn Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Hmmm, if that's the case, what do you recommend? Where should I get safe (Cypress?) mulch that's not going to break the bank. That or hardwood/oak pieces to throw into my medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matttoadman Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Other than the cypress mulch you can get at the pet store, that I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 7 hours ago, Hell-Spawn said: Hmmm, if that's the case, what do you recommend? Where should I get safe (Cypress?) mulch that's not going to break the bank. That or hardwood/oak pieces to throw into my medium. Lowe's sells large bags of it for $3 in the outside section near the soils.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-Spawn Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 On 7/14/2017 at 0:44 PM, All About Insects said: Lowe's sells large bags of it for $3 in the outside section near the soils.  Thank you! I have a Lowe's and a Home Depot on either side of me. Now what about oak chunks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Hell-Spawn said: Now what about oak chunks? Oak chunks would probably be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All About Arthropods Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Hell-Spawn said: Now what about oak chunks? Unfortunately I haven't came across anywhere that sells those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-Spawn Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I see oak chunks for sale for smoking during grilling, to flavor the beef. But it's expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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