Nhewyt Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Just wondering if anyone regularly sells excess feeders to their local pet shops? Since I want to be sure to stay small in quanity, large in species this time into the hobby, I am looking at all possible means of moving out any population explosions I may end up with. Though my first choice would be to trade or sell to fellow collectors, I want to have a full arsenal of options If you have sold to local shops what were your experiences with the common potential "issues" such as the usual adverse reaction to anything called a roach, the common pet shop desire to get something for nothing (aka, we can take them off your hands for free but won't pay for them - which, btw would not be a super huge issue if I get desperate lol) and the possibility of flooding the market if the stores decide to start breeding them on their own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt K Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Stores prefer it if you call them "feeder insects" for the reptiles, and if they arrive at the store in some sort of plastic tub/jar/container they can live in. They also seem very disinclined to culture them in-house, so that you would not have to worry about. I thought to supply a few stores around here myself, but it was too much trouble on my part so I gave up on the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android raptor Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hmm, I wonder if you can also give feeders to local reptile shelters/rescues? My hissers aren't feeders, but I'm sure some of you all might be interested in doing a good deed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allpet Roaches Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Of course it all depends on the petshop owner or manager and the type of animals sold there (a lot of reptiles is a good sign). There are a few reptile swaps in PA that might be worth the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nhewyt Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 There are a few reptile swaps in PA that might be worth the drive. The Pittsburgh Reptile Show and Sale is coming up on the 23rd and is only about 25 minutes from me - but I fear the place, every time I go there I come home will full bags and empty pockets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arachyd Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 You could also check with your local zoos. Many exotic animals require a varied diet and for some, roaches would be a welcome treat they don't usually get. A lot of the smaller zoos are often strapped for cash as the weather gets colder and they have fewer visitors so your offer might be more welcome than you'd expect. Even just letting the zoos know you have spare roaches could help in the event of a problem with their usual sources (like the mealworm problem that has been going on recently). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nhewyt Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 You could also check with your local zoos. Many exotic animals require a varied diet and for some, roaches would be a welcome treat they don't usually get. A lot of the smaller zoos are often strapped for cash as the weather gets colder and they have fewer visitors so your offer might be more welcome than you'd expect. Even just letting the zoos know you have spare roaches could help in the event of a problem with their usual sources (like the mealworm problem that has been going on recently). That's a good idea except for the fact that I have a saying that goes like this - "No public good deed goes unpunished" Which simply means that sooner or later, some goody two shoes, can't keep their nose out of other peoples business, have no life so they have to try to force their will on others, will notice that someone GASP has tropical roaches that could be infesting the world and attacking their children and I would get turned in to the authorities and have to go through ten kinds of heil to explain myself and avoid fines and confiscations - which conceivably, I might not actually avoid. Humm, that may have come out a little more harsh that I meant it to - it's a sore spot with me - people who do things like that. So, on another note - what IS up with the mealworm thing? How did we end up with a shortage of one of the easiest to culture grain pests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arachyd Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I've heard a lot of stories but the most plausible seems to be that the bigger breeders fed their stock food from the same supplier. That food had somehow been treated with an insect growth regulator (used to prevent pest insects from infesting grain in storage) and it caused the mealworms to stop breeding. Luckily for us we breed our own. There are other stories but that one made the most sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntsman Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I have started moving more and more roaches on a monthly basis, Nhewyt, and find that those stores that sell Bearded Dragons, tarantulas, poison dart frogs, Hedgehogs and the like are the best ones to approach. I also supply two animal rehabilitation centres - at a greatly reduced rate - and I will try my local zoo next. I find that pet stores in general do not try to breed everything themselves, but some of their customers will, so that's an obstacle to overcome... Your local legislation is certainly different to mine, but I think if you keep everything friendly and your prices low, you should keep yourself out of trouble. Hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nhewyt Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Thanks for all the input and ideas folks - if the day of overpopulation comes, it's good to know I have options. And speaking of which, I was very very weak - and used the lame excuse of "I need something to help control population" - I bought a couple of tiny baby Chaco Golden Knee tarantulas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenKrieger Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Thanks for all the input and ideas folks - if the day of overpopulation comes, it's good to know I have options. And speaking of which, I was very very weak - and used the lame excuse of "I need something to help control population" - I bought a couple of tiny baby Chaco Golden Knee tarantulas... off topic, but those Chaco Gold Knee's are awesome. I've got one that's about a 2" legspan that can take a full grown B. Lateralis. They grow slowly, but they get huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nhewyt Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 off topic, but those Chaco Gold Knee's are awesome. I've got one that's about a 2" legspan that can take a full grown B. Lateralis. They grow slowly, but they get huge. Yes, they are big and beautiful - I picked up a wild caught female at a show back when I was breeding tarantulas. She was about 7" and even though wild caught, tame as a kitten. The only thing she ever thought to use her HUGE fangs for when being handled, was as an extra pair of legs for holding on or pulling her fat butt up - though I must admit it could be unnerving to see those fangs hooked over your thumb, even if it was just to hold on - especially since she so often used those fangs to take full size hissing roaches, and lots of 'em! One of these new 1/2" babies I got today was sassy though - I guess it wasn't happy having been rolled up in a damp paper towel for the trip and that little bugger came out standing on tip toe and swinging it's fat bum around like a mace, threatening to smack it's hairs ( all 3 of 'em) onto anyone unwary enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenKrieger Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yes, they are big and beautiful - I picked up a wild caught female at a show back when I was breeding tarantulas. She was about 7" and even though wild caught, tame as a kitten. The only thing she ever thought to use her HUGE fangs for when being handled, was as an extra pair of legs for holding on or pulling her fat butt up - though I must admit it could be unnerving to see those fangs hooked over your thumb, even if it was just to hold on - especially since she so often used those fangs to take full size hissing roaches, and lots of 'em! One of these new 1/2" babies I got today was sassy though - I guess it wasn't happy having been rolled up in a damp paper towel for the trip and that little bugger came out standing on tip toe and swinging it's fat bum around like a mace, threatening to smack it's hairs ( all 3 of 'em) onto anyone unwary enough Lol, yeah, i think they calm down with age. Mine was unhandlable at .75" when i got it. And it's still skittish at 2", but kinda handleable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntsman Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What species are these? They sound great! One of the Grammostolas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arachyd Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yes, they are G. aureostriata. I love mine but I think a bearded dragon would eat way more roaches if it ever became a big overpopulation problem. Hmmm....I think you need a beardie too....just in case...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nhewyt Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yes, they are G. aureostriata. I love mine but I think a bearded dragon would eat way more roaches if it ever became a big overpopulation problem. Hmmm....I think you need a beardie too....just in case......You know - they have names for people like you - instigator and enabler are two that come to mind right off I love bearded dragons, but just don't have the room available to properly set one up - but... if I could get a couple of the fleece that are taking up shelf space spun up into yarn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arachyd Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 This is where you must be creative. After all, Christmas is coming up. A nice beardie would make a lovely gift for your "significant other" and hey, you'll even throw in free feeders for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I've been vending at the local show the past few months... You generally get good reception in hobbyist places. I generally make back my table fee and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail_Karkarov Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I must concur on this as a great idea. I am also going to try roaching to the local shops. Right now I sell them mealies because of the recent national problems. I also agree that it was due to bad grain. A few local shops got burned and they always get small mealies anyway so they gobbled mine up. Have you thought of Craigslist? That's where I make most of my contacts. Hooked up with a local reptile breeder and that worked out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Clausen Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I've always been amazed at how fast and how many replies I get on Craigslist when I've posted an availability on a bug. But, I just find it easier to ship than to have people come over or have to meet them down the street. You don't want just anybody showing up to your home. However, I will say that I have one regular customer that I met through Craigslist. I bought a (used, like new) 40 gallon/long tank for our bearded dragon off Craigslist a few weeks ago. Never buy anything new unless you have to, I say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail_Karkarov Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Never buy anything new unless you have to, I say! I absolutely agree. Have you ever considered building your own tanks? I haven't done it, but it seems easy enough if you are mechanically inclined. I'd probably go with some form of plexi and not glass though. Glass does hold up better in the long run but is a little more difficult to cut I can imagine. Sorry off topic. I've also considered the "I need a beardie" solution to overpopulation. I think I know enough people with beardies though that I can dish them out to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenKrieger Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 lol, yeah, friends with lizards is definitely a good way to get rid of extra feeders. I have a person with 3 leopard geckos that I supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Termite48 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I've always been amazed at how fast and how many replies I get on Craigslist when I've posted an availability on a bug. But, I just find it easier to ship than to have people come over or have to meet them down the street. You don't want just anybody showing up to your home. However, I will say that I have one regular customer that I met through Craigslist. I bought a (used, like new) 40 gallon/long tank for our bearded dragon off Craigslist a few weeks ago. Never buy anything new unless you have to, I say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Termite48 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Peter: What is the species of Roach pictured in your Avatar? I really like the look of it from the dorsal view. Rich S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masqueepo Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I have been selling to a small shop but they don't sell to much. They buy some but the customers don't because they all have the "yew, gross" mentality. I'm trying to help get rid of that way of thinking in my area though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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